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| PatrollerMRG |
I've mounted the binders on a pair
of Dynastar
4x4's 192cm as of Tuesday.
The
set up is GREAT ! Yes these are for patrollers,
I am in and out a
dozen times as day and what a breath of
fresh air, one doesn't need to
get
dizzy so often now...
The
only hiccup so far was while my boss was
waiting for me some frozen
corn had built up between the closing plate
and the ski, but that was
easily fixed, and now I know what to look
for on these freeze / thaw days.
I
have been able to demo the set up in many
conditions in two days and I
like the performance on the hard frozen
snow(had to side slip Paradise
almost all the way for sweep Tuesday after
it froze up when the sun went
down and the temps dropped on us!!) and
the performance in deep corn and
rotten mash has been great, the only thing
I have not been able to test on
would be what one would call "normal" snow...
The
mount was easy, we used the Rottafella template so it was centered
easily and done quickly.
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04/18/03
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| nevado_b |
Still
having issues with one of the binding trying
to get them in. It seems to
work well on a hard surface but on the snow
it is very difficult.
It
turns people off if it takes too long. As
for getting them back I can always ship them to you
or Dickie. I think
it costs around 10 or 15 dollars. I hope that the
step-in system gets
it's
bugs worked out and that you have success in selling
them.
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04/18/03
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| PatrollerMRG |
I
have not had any problems with the set-up yet
and will prob.
keep going
with what we have until I notice a need to change
out. So far I have
been
skiing fairly rugged terrain and deeep corn snow
without a hitch. I am getting
a lot of exposure and showing how the dog works,
folks are
impressed-except for the price, however, they are
aware that the production
is limited etc.. Are you looking for investors
that may help you out in a
larger way, and or group buying discounts??
I was part of
the winning sled dog team at 'bush last Fri
and got some
exposure to another patrol crowd and they were
interested !!
I was also filmed
for a telemark movie esterday, the guy filming-
Nick
Osborn filmed your set-up during tele fest-he
was filming close-ups of
the
feet and bindings for side slip technique.
well gotta go..
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04/18/03
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| skijorpete |
Now
I understand. What a great binding! I received
the 'dogs on Thursday and
promptly mounted them to my favorite skis.
Friday gave us 13
inches of
cold-smoke powder and Saturday warmed the bumps
to perfect softness.
The
Telebulldogs performed flawlessly.
I think what
blows me away the most is that not only is
the Telebulldog
the
best (by a long shot) pin binding I've ever
skied, it might be the best
binding I've ever skied. Boot retention and
ball-of-foot feel are superb. I've skied a lot of bindings over the years.
Your attention to detail
does
not escape me. The machine work and design
is beautiful.
What kind of
feedback can I offer? How long can I demo?
Our little
ski area
closes today but I'm skiing weekends in April
at Vail and A-basin, and
I'm
off to the Loveland Cornfest at the end of
the month. I ski a great
deal of
backcountry too, tele mountaineering on 14ers
through July. The
Telebulldogs
would really shine on steep bc face climbs
by virtue of brakes, no
flopping
cables, step-in, and of course great edge control
on the descent. But
you
knew that already.
Thanks again.
Let me know any feedback I can give or if
I can try to
show
off them off to others. If you'd like them
back right away I
understand that
too. Is the binding I'm trying the one for
sale to the public?
Yesterday,
two tele patroller friends were really drooling
over the Telebulldogs
when I
was showing them how easy they were to step
in and out of and all the while
having brakes for security. Delay is not a
small thing on the minds of
tele
patrollers as they lag behind their alpine
brothers getting ready to
bolt to
an accident. Anyway, I had a great weekend
on the Telebulldogs.
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04/18/03
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| cdstan |
Yep, I love
them. The ease of getting clicked in without
messing with the
cable. I don't even miss the cable. Hope to see
some big snow for a test this
weekend, I was there a half day Wed. Let us know
if you want to make
a few runs.
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04/18/03
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| jguss |
Here's
my impressions after some brief time on the
TBs:
1) They are an
amazing
improvement over existing 3 pin technology
in that they almost offer
the
lateral stability of cables w/out the associated
tip dive issues. They
parrallel as well as they tele and allow you
to feel the true flex of
your
rear boot (bellows) and ski like nothing else.
2) Getting into
them
is a
piece of cake. Getting out is not as easy
as you might think. That's
because I
find that I need to keep the release lever
depressed while I lift my
heel.
Compared to a Voile three pin where the toe
bail "pops" when
the catch
is
actuated
3) My only other
concern is the durability of the duck bill
on my
boots. They definitely showed some signs
of wear and tear after only a
couple
days of skiing. I did not add shims and they
seemed to really hold the
duck
bill of my Garmonts in almost a vice like
grip, but then again that is
also
what makes them supperior to any other 3
pin binding.
With respect to the Alta event, I may be able
to show up for the event.
I'd be
glad to let folks do the demo. I have mounted
the bindings on a pair of
Tua
Big Easy'. I will remount them on a more modern
ski for next season,
but the
Tua is actually a pretty good match weight and
stiffness wise, but I'd
like to
ski them on something with a little more sidecut.
By the way, have you
ever
come up with a mounting template?
You definitely have a winner here. It's going
to be an issue of helping
people
overcome old perceptions about three pins vs.
cables.
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04/18/03
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| Claude |
Louis-
wow! I mounted the bulldogs on a pair of 183cm
Elan "Darkside" carving skis. What a blast. I loved the feel of
the binding. Took a
run
to get back into the cable-less feeling then I
was all over it.
Torsionally,
they are excellent. I struggled getting the boot
in on the bench, but
on snow
it was no problem. Obviousy I cannot comment on
durability yet, but
they
seem beefier than any other I have ever skied.
And since I used a pure
carving ski, which is very sensitive to edge pressure
input, I think I
got a
good feel for how precise the binding is.
The only "issues" I have observed
so far are the mounting pattern,
which I
mentioned before, and the fact that I cannot
easily mount them on a
release
kit. An adapter (like the G3 makes for their
binding) would solve
that.
Also, on my Elans, which already have a huge
riser plate, the added
stack
makes the "brake" barely touch the
snow. Not really an issue on most
people's skis, but thought I'd mention it.
I showed
the binding to several of the best pinners
here at SR. Got
some
curious looks initially, as they are mostly
cable converts, but when I asked
them all how many cables and toe pieces each
had broken this year, they
all
chuckled.
I for one
would prefer to buy the bulldog over any of the
cables out
there
(given similar price), because I like the way
they feel and hope they
outlast
the cables. There are a lot of guys that think
the cables are a
pre-requisite to getting their boots to flex
correctly, and that the
cable
increases stabilty. I don't agree with this but
the cable guys have
done a
good job marketing.
Anyway, I'll keep skiing them hard and give
you more feedback once I've
had
some more days on them. I went skiing today intending
to be out only
an hour
or so, and ended up skiing 4 1/2 hrs straight,
all hard carving......so
I can
say I really loved the thing.
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04/18/03
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| PatrollerMRG |
I have made
a minor adjustment to the TB's in adding a small
piece of duct tape (black) to the top of the
front mounting holes in the plastic core. I was
noticing the catchment of water on these wet
spring days that we have been having. I am aware
that water can get into the ski core thru the
mounting screws-even if sealed with a glue or
silicone product at mounting time-and the ski
materials can degrade, especially if wood. So...even
though I am on an older and previously mounted
ski set I am trying this in leu of creating drain
holes in your product. A small detail, however
in the backshop I have seen skis that have failed
thusly. I have inspected my boots and have found
the pin holes a bit worked and shall spend some
time observing the situation and check out the
installation of the big teeth, nothin like a
new set of choppers!! Do you have any window
stickers??
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04/18/03
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| abhoward |
As
an old racer I'm blown away by how powerful
they are with a heal
cable!!!!!!!!!!
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04/18/03
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| peagleston |
Hello! Just
wanted to let you know how much I enjoyed the "telebulldogs" the
other day! I loved them! I was surprised at how
easily I adapted to them, and would love to ski
on them again sometime:) Any more bulldog test
trips to South America???? Count me in:) See
ya.
Another satisfied telebulldog skier
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04/18/03
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| mnemeth |
I took 'em
out for a drive last weekend. We have had some
pretty
crappy snow in the BC close to town, and I have
needed to take them out locally before getting
committed deep in the BC with 'em. Despite that,
I definitely spent some quality time with them.
I'll write up a more detailed review later, am
swamped at work for the next couple of days.
Despite
that, a quick overview to date is that: - I took
my BC rock skis (Rossi Nepals w/ Voille
Cables) on a 17-mile tour that included a 1500-ft
descent of a 25-degree slope. This was on a Saturday.
- I changed out the bindings on Sunday AM, then
took them to a 1500-ft shot of 36-degree slope
followed by about 500 ft of low-angle stuff (15
degrees?). - Boots were 3-buckle Garmont Supercruisers
(leather) - Boot fit was quite tight and there
was no slop in the turns - began with GS turns,
switched to medium-radius turns halfway down.
Turn initiation was good for both, not much adjustment
time to get into symmetrical, even turns. Had
no problems getting rear foot underneath. Was
able to weight fore/aft ski however I wanted.
Snow
conditions did not allow quick (short radius)
turns on that pair of skis. - Snow conditions
were 2" of falling snow (wet, heavy) on top of
a mushy base that was supportive at steep angles,
isothermic and bottomless at low angles. - Snow
was gloppy on uptrack, 2" accumulation on skins
that had to be removed by taking off skins, beating
against backpack. Despite this, no accumulation
on binding underfoot.
All in all, a pretty positive
outcome, better than I expected in such conditioons.
Had I not wanted to test the bindings and get
a comparison w/ prior day (same boots/snow/skis/etc),
I would not have gone out that day. Drawback
thus far is that nobody else was out that day,
so the bindings did not get much face time. I
plan to ski four days by the end of Easter weekend,
and may bring the skis to a big BC bash next
weend (the "Tele
Formal").
I would ordinarily post a review of something
like this on tele tips web site, but would hold
off pending your approval given these early stages
of
R&D and marketing. If you are at a stage where you can stomach honest opinions
on the web boards, let me know and I'll update the crowd with what I find. So
far, so good though.
Question - what does a pair of these weigh? |
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| mnemeth |
Yeah, I never
commit to a trip far back into the BC on unknown
bindings. I forgot to mention that I bench-fit
the bindings onto Asolo Extreme Pro's (2-buckle
leather) and Garmont Veloces. Both seemed to
fit just as well as
the boots I ended up wearing.
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