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PatrollerMRG I've mounted the binders on a pair of Dynastar
4x4's 192cm as of Tuesday.

The set up is GREAT ! Yes these are for patrollers, I am in and out a dozen times as day and what a breath of fresh air, one doesn't need to get dizzy so often now...

The only hiccup so far was while my boss was waiting for me some frozen corn had built up between the closing plate and the ski, but that was easily fixed, and now I know what to look for on these freeze / thaw days.

I have been able to demo the set up in many conditions in two days and I like the performance on the hard frozen snow(had to side slip Paradise almost all the way for sweep Tuesday after it froze up when the sun went
down and the temps dropped on us!!) and the performance in deep corn and rotten mash has been great, the only thing I have not been able to test on would be what one would call "normal" snow...

The mount was easy, we used the Rottafella template so it was centered easily and done quickly.

04/18/03

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nevado_b

Still having issues with one of the binding trying to get them in. It seems to work well on a hard surface but on the snow it is very difficult. It
turns people off if it takes too long. As for getting them back I can always ship them to you or Dickie. I think it costs around 10 or 15 dollars. I hope that the step-in system gets it's
bugs worked out and that you have success in selling them.

04/18/03

 

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PatrollerMRG

I have not had any problems with the set-up yet and will prob. keep going with what we have until I notice a need to change out. So far I have
been skiing fairly rugged terrain and deeep corn snow without a hitch. I am getting a lot of exposure and showing how the dog works, folks are impressed-except for the price, however, they are aware that the production
is limited etc.. Are you looking for investors that may help you out in a larger way, and or group buying discounts??

I was part of the winning sled dog team at 'bush last Fri and got some exposure to another patrol crowd and they were interested !!

I was also filmed for a telemark movie esterday, the guy filming- Nick Osborn filmed your set-up during tele fest-he was filming close-ups of
the feet and bindings for side slip technique.

well gotta go..

04/18/03

 

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skijorpete

Now I understand. What a great binding! I received the 'dogs on Thursday and promptly mounted them to my favorite skis. Friday gave us 13 inches of cold-smoke powder and Saturday warmed the bumps to perfect softness. The Telebulldogs performed flawlessly.

I think what blows me away the most is that not only is the Telebulldog the best (by a long shot) pin binding I've ever skied, it might be the best
binding I've ever skied. Boot retention and ball-of-foot feel are superb. I've skied a lot of bindings over the years. Your attention to detail
does not escape me. The machine work and design is beautiful.

What kind of feedback can I offer? How long can I demo? Our little ski area closes today but I'm skiing weekends in April at Vail and A-basin, and I'm off to the Loveland Cornfest at the end of the month. I ski a great deal of
backcountry too, tele mountaineering on 14ers through July. The Telebulldogs would really shine on steep bc face climbs by virtue of brakes, no flopping cables, step-in, and of course great edge control on the descent. But
you knew that already.

Thanks again. Let me know any feedback I can give or if I can try to show off them off to others. If you'd like them back right away I
understand that too. Is the binding I'm trying the one for sale to the public? Yesterday,
two tele patroller friends were really drooling over the Telebulldogs when I was showing them how easy they were to step in and out of and all the while having brakes for security. Delay is not a small thing on the minds of tele patrollers as they lag behind their alpine brothers getting ready to bolt to an accident. Anyway, I had a great weekend on the Telebulldogs.

04/18/03

 

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cdstan

Yep, I love them. The ease of getting clicked in without messing with the cable. I don't even miss the cable. Hope to see some big snow for a test this weekend, I was there a half day Wed. Let us know if you want to make a few runs.

04/18/03

 

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jguss

Here's my impressions after some brief time on the TBs:

1) They are an amazing improvement over existing 3 pin technology in that they almost offer the lateral stability of cables w/out the associated tip dive issues. They parrallel as well as they tele and allow you to feel the true flex of
your rear boot (bellows) and ski like nothing else.

2) Getting into them is a piece of cake. Getting out is not as easy as you might think. That's
because I find that I need to keep the release lever depressed while I lift my heel. Compared to a Voile three pin where the toe bail "pops" when the catch is actuated

3) My only other concern is the durability of the duck bill on my boots. They definitely showed some signs of wear and tear after only a
couple days of skiing. I did not add shims and they seemed to really hold the duck bill of my Garmonts in almost a vice like grip, but then again that is also what makes them supperior to any other 3 pin binding.

With respect to the Alta event, I may be able to show up for the event. I'd be glad to let folks do the demo. I have mounted the bindings on a pair of Tua Big Easy'. I will remount them on a more modern ski for next season, but the
Tua is actually a pretty good match weight and stiffness wise, but I'd like to ski them on something with a little more sidecut. By the way, have you ever come up with a mounting template?

You definitely have a winner here. It's going to be an issue of helping people overcome old perceptions about three pins vs. cables.

04/18/03

 

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Claude

Louis- wow! I mounted the bulldogs on a pair of 183cm Elan "Darkside" carving skis. What a blast. I loved the feel of the binding. Took a
run to get back into the cable-less feeling then I was all over it. Torsionally, they are excellent. I struggled getting the boot in on the bench, but
on snow it was no problem. Obviousy I cannot comment on durability yet, but they seem beefier than any other I have ever skied. And since I used a pure carving ski, which is very sensitive to edge pressure input, I think I got a
good feel for how precise the binding is.

The only "issues" I have observed so far are the mounting pattern, which I mentioned before, and the fact that I cannot easily mount them on a release kit. An adapter (like the G3 makes for their binding) would solve that. Also, on my Elans, which already have a huge riser plate, the added stack makes the "brake" barely touch the snow. Not really an issue on most people's skis, but thought I'd mention it.

I showed the binding to several of the best pinners here at SR. Got some curious looks initially, as they are mostly cable converts, but when I asked them all how many cables and toe pieces each had broken this year, they all
chuckled.

I for one would prefer to buy the bulldog over any of the cables out there (given similar price), because I like the way they feel and hope they
outlast the cables. There are a lot of guys that think the cables are a pre-requisite to getting their boots to flex correctly, and that the cable
increases stabilty. I don't agree with this but the cable guys have done a good job marketing.

Anyway, I'll keep skiing them hard and give you more feedback once I've had some more days on them. I went skiing today intending to be out only an hour or so, and ended up skiing 4 1/2 hrs straight, all hard carving......so I can say I really loved the thing.

04/18/03

 

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PatrollerMRG

I have made a minor adjustment to the TB's in adding a small piece of duct tape (black) to the top of the front mounting holes in the plastic core. I was noticing the catchment of water on these wet spring days that we have been having. I am aware that water can get into the ski core thru the mounting screws-even if sealed with a glue or silicone product at mounting time-and the ski materials can degrade, especially if wood. So...even though I am on an older and previously mounted ski set I am trying this in leu of creating drain holes in your product. A small detail, however in the backshop I have seen skis that have failed thusly. I have inspected my boots and have found the pin holes a bit worked and shall spend some time observing the situation and check out the installation of the big teeth, nothin like a new set of choppers!! Do you have any window stickers??

04/18/03

 

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abhoward

As an old racer I'm blown away by how powerful they are with a heal cable!!!!!!!!!!

04/18/03

 

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peagleston

Hello! Just wanted to let you know how much I enjoyed the "telebulldogs" the other day! I loved them! I was surprised at how easily I adapted to them, and would love to ski on them again sometime:) Any more bulldog test trips to South America???? Count me in:) See ya. Another satisfied telebulldog skier

04/18/03

 

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mnemeth

I took 'em out for a drive last weekend. We have had some pretty crappy snow in the BC close to town, and I have needed to take them out locally before getting committed deep in the BC with 'em. Despite that, I definitely spent some quality time with them. I'll write up a more detailed review later, am swamped at work for the next couple of days.

Despite that, a quick overview to date is that: - I took my BC rock skis (Rossi Nepals w/ Voille Cables) on a 17-mile tour that included a 1500-ft descent of a 25-degree slope. This was on a Saturday. - I changed out the bindings on Sunday AM, then took them to a 1500-ft shot of 36-degree slope followed by about 500 ft of low-angle stuff (15 degrees?). - Boots were 3-buckle Garmont Supercruisers (leather) - Boot fit was quite tight and there was no slop in the turns - began with GS turns, switched to medium-radius turns halfway down. Turn initiation was good for both, not much adjustment time to get into symmetrical, even turns. Had no problems getting rear foot underneath. Was able to weight fore/aft ski however I wanted.

Snow conditions did not allow quick (short radius) turns on that pair of skis. - Snow conditions were 2" of falling snow (wet, heavy) on top of a mushy base that was supportive at steep angles, isothermic and bottomless at low angles. - Snow was gloppy on uptrack, 2" accumulation on skins that had to be removed by taking off skins, beating against backpack. Despite this, no accumulation on binding underfoot.

All in all, a pretty positive outcome, better than I expected in such conditioons. Had I not wanted to test the bindings and get a comparison w/ prior day (same boots/snow/skis/etc), I would not have gone out that day. Drawback thus far is that nobody else was out that day, so the bindings did not get much face time. I plan to ski four days by the end of Easter weekend, and may bring the skis to a big BC bash next weend (the "Tele Formal").

I would ordinarily post a review of something like this on tele tips web site, but would hold off pending your approval given these early stages of R&D and marketing. If you are at a stage where you can stomach honest opinions on the web boards, let me know and I'll update the crowd with what I find. So far, so good though.

Question - what does a pair of these weigh?

04/18/03

 

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mnemeth

Yeah, I never commit to a trip far back into the BC on unknown bindings. I forgot to mention that I bench-fit the bindings onto Asolo Extreme Pro's (2-buckle leather) and Garmont Veloces. Both seemed to fit just as well as the boots I ended up wearing.

04/18/03

 

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